Comments on: Will God mess around with our scientific experiments? http://egalicontrarian.com/index.php/2009/07/23/will-god-mess-around-with-our-scientific-experiments/ a blog full of magic Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:33:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: non-metaphysical stephen http://egalicontrarian.com/index.php/2009/07/23/will-god-mess-around-with-our-scientific-experiments/comment-page-1/#comment-555 non-metaphysical stephen Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:16:38 +0000 http://egalicontrarian.com/?p=306#comment-555 I agree with your comment about non-interference. The idea that science assumes God won't interfere doesn't contradict the idea that I as a believer also assume God won't interfere. Have Christians in the sciences ever gotten different results from their atheist colleagues? (I'm reminded of the passage in Jeremiah where God has made a covenant with the sun and moon--thus establishing their motion as having its own independent, natural law. I also wonder why, if God didn't interfere when my check bounced, God would interfere when I'm trying to establish the melting point of ice....) The idea that science is atheistic is certainly contrary to the thought of Isaac Newton, who assumed that God gave the universe regular motion! I also like how he admits his theory is a leap -- a leap of faith? Hmmm... I've had discussions where I've argued your idea ("almost every activity justifies general atheism, including several religious activities") in the other direction: whereas the atheistic-science argument makes all activities atheistic, I make the case that the lack of 100% certainty makes a lot of daily activities, including scientific ones, reliant on faith. There's always an element of trust. But then, Hume established that quite well, didn't he? I agree with your comment about non-interference. The idea that science assumes God won’t interfere doesn’t contradict the idea that I as a believer also assume God won’t interfere. Have Christians in the sciences ever gotten different results from their atheist colleagues? (I’m reminded of the passage in Jeremiah where God has made a covenant with the sun and moon–thus establishing their motion as having its own independent, natural law. I also wonder why, if God didn’t interfere when my check bounced, God would interfere when I’m trying to establish the melting point of ice….) The idea that science is atheistic is certainly contrary to the thought of Isaac Newton, who assumed that God gave the universe regular motion!

I also like how he admits his theory is a leap — a leap of faith? Hmmm… I’ve had discussions where I’ve argued your idea (“almost every activity justifies general atheism, including several religious activities”) in the other direction: whereas the atheistic-science argument makes all activities atheistic, I make the case that the lack of 100% certainty makes a lot of daily activities, including scientific ones, reliant on faith. There’s always an element of trust.

But then, Hume established that quite well, didn’t he?

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